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Mario Galaxy 2 Wii U Gamepad

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Information technology isn't upscaled to 1080p and you demand a WiiMote...

I bought it thinking it was now a Wii U game, but NOPE!

All I saw was how it doesn't require to go into Wii mode and how information technology could be controlled with the Wii U pad, but that was a lie as you lot need the WiiMote.

Again Nintendo let me downwards and tbh this is the straw, never once more will I invest in their bullshit products. Sadly their great games are allow down past their shoddy hardware and service.

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They made it pretty articulate during the Directly that information technology is just a Wii rom. They also very clearly stated that only games that supported to the utilize of the Archetype Controller could be played on the Game Pad.

If you didn't pay attending or read the description on the eShop so that is on you.

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Information technology isn't upscaled to 1080p and y'all need a WiiMote...

I bought it thinking information technology was now a Wii U game, but NOPE!

All I saw was how it doesn't require to go into Wii style and how it could be controlled with the Wii U pad, simply that was a lie as you need the WiiMote.

Once more Nintendo let me downwardly and tbh this is the straw, never again will I invest in their bullshit products. Sadly their great games are let down by their shoddy hardware and service.

That'south all your fault, duder. Simply creating a thread isn't really going to solve your problem. Brusque respond to your question: to brand coin. Merely all over the identify today, there'due south loads of news and info nigh that this isn't uprezzed. Did y'all actually think yous'd get a remastered, Gamepad configured copy of SMG2 for merely $10?

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Welp, this one is on y'all and your inattention to detail, OP.

These aren't MGS HD remakes that cost full retail toll. They're $10-$20 downloadable games with minimal work done to them other than making sure they properly run on the Wii U. They're not getting whatever significant graphical improvements. They're using the original control scheme, and since many Wii games used the arrow in a significant manner (often more significantly than motion controls), there would be no style to play the game on the Gamepad since information technology has no IR sensor to act as a arrow. They'd have to do a bunch of extra programming piece of work to substitute an analog stick as the pointer or something, and this is clearly non the sort of project where Nintendo is interested in monkeying around with the game code.

The information's been out there from the beginning, you just wildly fabricated up expectations even though it'due south simply a $x-$20 basic rerelease, and now you lot're mad that your completely capricious expectations weren't met.

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there are some people who probably don't have a wii and they have a wii u and want to buy it digital, and so why not?

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This seems right up my alley having never played smg2, plus $10 seems like a steal. Alas im drowning in games atm and really need to play what ive got.

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I read that they're working on putting loads of wii games on the WiiU shop, including the Metroid Prime Trilogy, Mario galaxy games and Donkey Kong Country for similar £eighteen each (half that in the week they release).
I call back it's a very good thing, I really tin't encounter a problem with it at all. If you already take the game, and so don't buy it merely not everyone does. They aren't beingness marketed or priced as total remakes and Wii motes can exist bought dead inexpensive now, I've seen plenty selling at effectually £five so that'southward non really a trouble either. Almost of the games support the pro controller anyway afaik

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I don't become people absolute hate for the Wii remote, I just started using information technology last year (never had a Wii before), but I really like how it works, specially when coupled with a nunchuck.

Short respond for OPs question:

more than ways to buy a game >>>>>>>>> less ways to purchase a game.

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@rafaelfc: I agree I also quite similar the wii mote, my only slight trouble I discover with it is it tin can beginning getting a scrap uncomfortable if y'all're using it for more a couple hours without a suspension. Heck I've been playing Smash Bros WiiU loads with a Wii mote recently without a problem.

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@ripelivejam: yeah just that cost! If you haven't played information technology, I advise throwing it on your pile of shame and getting to it when yous can.

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Because people like you and me are stupid plenty to buy information technology on impulse earlier realizing we take to dig out our Wii remotes just to play the damn matter. I don't even take a Wii remote anymore, afterwards giving mine to my nephews. I literally do not have the power to play the game I just bought. But Nintendo has my $10.

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I didnt know it was a requirement to update every archetype game that shows up in a digital shop.

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SMG2 for $ten natively running on my Wii U?

You need to ask why I need this?

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I get mad when things I buy practise exactly what they are advertised to do, also.

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All they said was SMG2 didn't need to be booted from Wii fashion. They said nothing about upward-scaling information technology or making it work for Wii U controllers in the Direct this morning. Perchance they mention controller compatibility on the store page, idk. Either way, you lot just made assumptions.

Hopefully ranting a little helped you at-home down a flake. Sucks that you bought a product and information technology didn't meet your assumed expectations.

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@bisonhero: @mbradley1992: @erinisadrunk: Sometimes you screw upwardly and just want someone to say "damn dude, that sucks" , seems like I come into every thread these days and multiple people are already merely piling on. It'south a item that could have been missed and apparently was past the OP, that doesn't mean he won't exist more careful in future, simply I tin still empathize with the state of affairs.

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Sorry to say duder just this i is on you. They made information technology pretty clear the games were but being booted automatically through the Wii fashion, without having to do it manually. Also, they said the Gamepad could just exist used as a controller for games that supported the classic controller. A quick Google search would have shown you that Mario Galaxy two was not i of those games.

With that being said, I played about 10 minutes of the game and it doesn't really await that bad to me, even in shitty 480p. I really don't get why yous accept to utilize the Wiimote, since everything could accept just as hands been mapped to buttons... Oh well. At to the lowest degree the amount of motion needed is pretty minimal.

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@wolfgame:

For sure but I take exception to someone coming and blaming Nintendo by claiming that they had lied and deceived him when they did no such thing. It is off-white game to point out to him that he misunderstood or missed what was said when he is blaming the visitor for his mistake.

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Its to tease Brad to finally cease a SMG game. Besides, this is like complaining Sony/Atlus for putting Persona iii: FES equally a PS2 classic on PS3 which i bought cause i haven't played it before.

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It isn't upscaled to 1080p and yous need a WiiMote...

I bought it thinking it was now a Wii U game, but NOPE!

All I saw was how it doesn't require to get into Wii mode and how it could be controlled with the Wii U pad, but that was a lie as y'all need the WiiMote.

Again Nintendo let me down and tbh this is the straw, never again will I invest in their bullshit products. Sadly their great games are permit down by their shoddy hardware and service.

And information technology'due south your fault for buying it thinking that. They were very articulate in the Nintendo Directly.

And their great games run perfect on their hardware, non let down. Don't invest in their "bullshit" products anymore for sure, especially since you lot can't pay attending to the information they give you.

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@wolfgame: Except they didn't start a thread to get empathy. They started a thread asking why Nintendo released this game and trying to make it out like Nintendo screwed them over. If the guy just said he made a mistake, so that's fine. Simply the blame shouldn't remainder on Nintendo's shoulders for this.

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I don't get people accented hate for the Wii remote, I just started using it last year (never had a Wii before), merely I really similar how it works, specially when coupled with a nunchuck.

Hmmm....

@rafaelfc: I agree I also quite like the wii mote, my only slight problem I find with it is it can start getting a bit uncomfortable if you're using information technology for more than a couple hours without a break.

Yep that's why. Plus some games but don't demand this uncomfortable controller separation. Xenoblade Chronicles with nunchuk and Wiimote is unnecessary. Resident Evil Archives I solely use a Wiimote and its terrible, even worse with the nunchuk too.

But it does accommodate some games heed you lot.

On topic: No sympathy OP, sorry. Not only because of your situation just also because of your negative venting thread.

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I did enjoy some of what the wiimote brought to the table, but i would have liked it if there was a way of attaching the wiimote and nunchuk parts together to form a more standard controller. All-time of both worlds, but i guess that's for bizzaro world ninty.

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It'southward likewise bad considering the only thing in those games that "demand" a wiimote are the pseudo-Super Monkey Ball levels anyway(which don't demand information technology actually.) It's a strange move after what they did with The Wind Waker, but oh well take your roms.

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It said y'all could use your Wii U Pad...

Why the fuck would I want 480p on a 1080p LCD TV? It looks terrible, upscale it, that requires no attempt.

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This seems right upward my alley having never played smg2, plus $10 seems like a steal. Alas im drowning in games atm and really demand to play what ive got.

only get it now and play it later on.

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@rafaelfc said:

I don't get people absolute hate for the Wii remote, I just started using information technology final year (never had a Wii before), but I really similar how it works, specially when coupled with a nunchuck.

Hmmm....

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@rafaelfc: I agree I also quite like the wii mote, my only slight trouble I find with it is it tin start getting a bit uncomfortable if you lot're using it for more than a couple hours without a break.

Yes that'southward why. Plus some games just don't demand this uncomfortable controller separation. Xenoblade Chronicles with nunchuk and Wiimote is unnecessary. Resident Evil Archives I solely employ a Wiimote and its terrible, even worse with the nunchuk as well.

Only it does accommodate some games mind you.

On topic: No sympathy OP, sorry. Not just because of your state of affairs but as well considering of your negative venting thread.

I played Mario Galaxy 1 & two, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Twilight Princess, Mario Kart viii, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D Earth and Super Blast Bros. all with the Wii remote and Nunchuck on my Wii U and really had no issues whatsoever with information technology.

I'k not saying it is swell for EVERY game, absolutely not. But people dismissing playing a keen game just considering of the Wii Remote is kinda crazy to me.

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Information technology said you could use your Wii U Pad...

Why the fuck would I desire 480p on a 1080p LCD TV? It looks terrible, upscale information technology, that requires no try.

Of course information technology requires effort. The Wii U has the guts of the original Wii inside it. This isn't a port and they aren't emulating the game, it is running natively on Wii hardware just as if yous were playing it on an original Wii. To add together any sort of new control options or upwardly scaled visuals they would accept to really port it to Wii U, which would exist significantly more work than only offering a digital download version of the original game.

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Truly they should add a list of compatible controllers on that page. On the eShop every game has a list of compatible controllers, which every Wii U user should've learned to study closely because of Nintendo's crazy controller state of affairs.

To answer the OPs question: I'grand interested in buying any great Wii games that I never played because I didn't own that panel. And the thought of getting the Metroid Prime trilogy makes me extremely goddamned happy.

I don't expect a game that isn't specifically marketed as a remaster to exist a remaster; information technology they'd done whatever work upressing the graphics or added control possibilities, they sure every bit shit would've said and so front and center.

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I for one would have paid $xxx for a version of the game that worked with a controller instead of the shitty Wiimote. Approximate I'll merely stick to Dolphin instead.

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@rebel_scum: Eh don't become me wrong, I exercise see that as an consequence simply I guess because it happened so rarely to me I wasn't actually bothered. I had no problem at all with the nunchuck being seperate, quite liked that actually information technology was just holding the wii remote vertically for more than a couple hours sometimes made my hand start to anguish a bit - even then a 5 minute break was all that was needed personally. I honestly don't think it was designed for really long play sessions. I get why people would adopt not to apply it if the game doesn't demand information technology, only to hate it / outright pass up to play anything on it just seems empty-headed imo.

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Why does Sony put old games on PSN?

Its a mode to get game that are out of impress/low in stock, in a convenient mode. Anybody does it, and its your own fault for not reading properly.

I also discover the complaints about wii mote in milky way of all games funny, its similar the least intrusive wii-mote usage ever.

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Information technology is your error, OP, simply I exercise empathise with you. No doubt it sucked to find out you couldn't play the game right abroad. At least Wiimotes are cheap and like shooting fish in a barrel to find.

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@ll_exile_ll: It's really disappointing that so few people understand that the reason the Wii U runs Wii games is that information technology literally has a miniaturized Wii that runs the games in exactly the same fashion they ran on the Wii. I believe this is the same principle that led to backwards compatibility in basically every instance where the system volition straight read the discs/carts from an older organization. The MGS collections are different in that I believe they're basically porting the entire game to work on PS3 hardware, and having to fiddle with a bunch of code to brand sure the port loads all of the assets and runs all of the lawmaking properly despite all the differences between PS2 hardware and PS3 hardware.

I experience similar almost no 1 realizes that software emulation is actually hugely taxing on hardware which is why Nintendo always releases NES Virtual Panel games first (and virtually often), because they're so simple that they're about trivial to emulate for any modern calculating device.

If future consoles continue to exist congenital on consistent x86 architecture and so going forward this may be less of an issue, merely up until this point, each console/handheld generation was working from such a dissimilar framework that information technology'south actually really admirable how many companies put in the effort to have backwards compatibility. I feel like this thread is a great example of how many gamers only completely take Hard disk remakes and upscaling and emulation for granted every bit if it's all as piddling as emulating NES games.

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@kerafyrm: Is this a joke? It'southward their responsibility to warn you that information technology's just an emulated version and/or port, but it's YOURS to read the info. Come up on, step your game up.

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It looks terrible, upscale it, that requires no effort.

Learn how engineering works. That's like saying you want to purchase a 2014 Ford Mustang body and driblet a F150 engine in it because it "requires no attempt".

Actually, that'd exist pretty rad. Merely that's not the point. The point is, you lot aren't just gonna be able to drop that big guy in the Mustang and call information technology a twenty-four hour period.

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"Upscaling" isn't a one button attempt. People picket Dolphin videos and think its and so elementary. Practise you understand in gild to run Galaxy smooth on Dolphin upscaled you demand a pretty fucking good rig? People half versed in engineering interim similar this is some easy thing to do. If all Nintendo did was upscale it with zip optimization, yous're playing a game with single digit FPS. Like, do a modicum of enquiry before mouthing off, honestly.

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I didn't play SMG2 on my Wii, and oasis't felt like paying $30 for a physical copy! Sure it doesn't look astonishing on a huge TV but it'due south notwithstanding a bully Mario game.

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Sad you got tricked into ownership the all-time game of 2010 for $10 and you're disappointed because you didn't read what you were ownership.

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It is a bit dumb, I've never had to play any of the rereleases of other older games with their original controller only.

Shame they didn't just put information technology in the Wii shop to avert defoliation.

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@ottoman673 said:

It is a bit dumb, I've never had to play any of the rereleases of other older games with their original controller only.

Shame they didn't just put information technology in the Wii store to avoid confusion.

In all fairness:

  • Xbox -> Xbox 360 -> Xbox 1, the controller barely changed, aside from the removal of the black and white buttons. Then using the new controller isn't an issue.
  • PS1 -> PS2 -> PS3 -> PS4, c'monday dawg, that is basically the same fucking controller. The analog sticks got added actually early in the PS1 lifecycle, and since then, all they've really added is the Sixaxis move sensor thing, and replaced Start and Select with a impaired touch pad. And so using the new controller isn't an upshot.
  • Wii -> Wii U, the controllers are so different. The Wii U basically has an actress shoulder button and one more than face push button, merely the Wii U gamepad doesn't take the IR sensor/pointer that the Wii remote has, and a LOT of games used that pointer ability (I believe the Wii U gamepad does take some kind of gyro/accelerometer in information technology?). It's not nearly as like shooting fish in a barrel to just ane:ane map Wii controls to the Wii U gamepad and then it doesn't seem similar a sensible complaint to say "Well I never had to employ the original controllers on the other systems", considering the other systems haven't changed their controller in like a decade.

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Information technology is a bit dumb, I've never had to play any of the rereleases of other older games with their original controller only.

Shame they didn't simply put information technology in the Wii shop to avoid confusion.

Half of the appeal was releasing it for Wii U owners (not Wii owners) and making it a menu choice that didn't require booting up that tedious Wii channel. What you lot're suggesting isn't even remotely what they wanted to accomplish hither. As well, you realize that the game is twice the size of the congenital in Wii storage infinite, right?

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I just desire to play the entire nes/snes/n64/gc library on that affair. Come up on Nintendo, make Nintendoflix

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So that wii games tin can exist conveniently bought and downloaded on the WiiU at a reasonable price. It's the same on other consoles. The PS3 sells PS2 games and such.

Mario Galaxy 2 Wii U Gamepad,

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